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the space is much as mitt romney got to the right of rick perry back in the primary and i think this seemed to me a real indicator, tipping point moment whether paul would seize that opportunity and the fact he made the calculation he did seems to me to cement what i thought at first was possibly a conventional wisdom that cemented too quickly which is you'll see the gop establishment the conservative elite keep sort of coalition together on immigration reform. >> right. it's particularly interesting given that it was an opportunity to get to the right of marco rubio who is definitely somebody who will be completing for similar voters if they both run for the nomination in 2016. you do have to remember, those that rand paul is somewhat philosophically libertarian. they believe in more expansion civilian immigration policy. it does show you the political restrictionist position isn't as strong. >> were you surprised? >> i was mildly surprised. i thought he would have couched it in terms where he was more clearly to the right of rubio. there's some nuances of it where the border security metr
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